Comments on: Ducks In A Row: Innovation And The Sacred P's http://mappingcompanysuccess.com/2009/05/ducks-in-a-row-innovation-and-the-sacred-ps/ Info, comments and musings on company culture, communications and employee hiring, motivation and retention Sun, 05 Feb 2012 17:56:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: Miki Saxon http://mappingcompanysuccess.com/2009/05/ducks-in-a-row-innovation-and-the-sacred-ps/comment-page-1/#comment-55014 Miki Saxon Sun, 10 May 2009 00:06:29 +0000 http://www.mappingcompanysuccess.com/?p=2442#comment-55014 Paul, your model is fascinating and I do understand what you're saying, but I see no reason to limit innovation to products or only require that it change paradigms. But even when the result is a changed paradigm the innovative thought that started the change may be tiny and come from a 'nobody'. There is an arrogance in most development groups that if one isn't trained in the disciplines involved then however could one innovate, let alone revolutionize, in that arena? Much of IBM's vaunted innovation is in business process. And you have to admit that several of Apple's most innovative products were merely "better ideas." It was the market that ratified them as paradigm shifts. Sometimes a worm's eye view offers enormous insight. I honestly believe that narrowing the definition limits people's ability to innovate. Paul, your model is fascinating and I do understand what you’re saying, but I see no reason to limit innovation to products or only require that it change paradigms. But even when the result is a changed paradigm the innovative thought that started the change may be tiny and come from a ‘nobody’.

There is an arrogance in most development groups that if one isn’t trained in the disciplines involved then however could one innovate, let alone revolutionize, in that arena?

Much of IBM’s vaunted innovation is in business process. And you have to admit that several of Apple’s most innovative products were merely “better ideas.” It was the market that ratified them as paradigm shifts.

Sometimes a worm’s eye view offers enormous insight. I honestly believe that narrowing the definition limits people’s ability to innovate.

]]> By: paul pangaro http://mappingcompanysuccess.com/2009/05/ducks-in-a-row-innovation-and-the-sacred-ps/comment-page-1/#comment-55010 paul pangaro Sat, 09 May 2009 22:55:59 +0000 http://www.mappingcompanysuccess.com/?p=2442#comment-55010 i agree with you again, but i see where we diverge: i tend to construe 'innovation' more narrowly, to distinguish it from 'a better idea' or 'a small product improvement'. my biases are expressed in the map at http://www.dubberly.com/concept-maps/innovation.html. i agree with you again, but i see where we diverge: i tend to construe ‘innovation’ more narrowly, to distinguish it from ‘a better idea’ or ‘a small product improvement’. my biases are expressed in the map at http://www.dubberly.com/concept-maps/innovation.html.

]]> By: Miki Saxon http://mappingcompanysuccess.com/2009/05/ducks-in-a-row-innovation-and-the-sacred-ps/comment-page-1/#comment-55005 Miki Saxon Sat, 09 May 2009 21:50:49 +0000 http://www.mappingcompanysuccess.com/?p=2442#comment-55005 What you say is true, Paul, but when a company listens to people at lower levels they often find an enormous amount of innovation with little financial cost. However, the innovation may require changes in process or procedures that take people out of their comfort zone or may not make sense to those at the top, although they function superbly for the employees doing the actual work. Because the wiki is public it's harder for higher level to bury them based on their personal feelings. What you say is true, Paul, but when a company listens to people at lower levels they often find an enormous amount of innovation with little financial cost.

However, the innovation may require changes in process or procedures that take people out of their comfort zone or may not make sense to those at the top, although they function superbly for the employees doing the actual work.

Because the wiki is public it’s harder for higher level to bury them based on their personal feelings.

]]> By: paul pangaro http://mappingcompanysuccess.com/2009/05/ducks-in-a-row-innovation-and-the-sacred-ps/comment-page-1/#comment-55007 paul pangaro Sat, 09 May 2009 17:59:54 +0000 http://www.mappingcompanysuccess.com/?p=2442#comment-55007 all this makes good sense. there's a point at which convergence and efficiency can come into play, too --- when understanding where investment in innovation can have the biggest payoff (which can't be everywhere) and where designing the innovation process can look at economic potential and the necessary variety in the conversation, all to lower risk. all this makes good sense. there’s a point at which convergence and efficiency can come into play, too — when understanding where investment in innovation can have the biggest payoff (which can’t be everywhere) and where designing the innovation process can look at economic potential and the necessary variety in the conversation, all to lower risk.

]]> By: Miki Saxon http://mappingcompanysuccess.com/2009/05/ducks-in-a-row-innovation-and-the-sacred-ps/comment-page-1/#comment-55011 Miki Saxon Thu, 07 May 2009 06:34:12 +0000 http://www.mappingcompanysuccess.com/?p=2442#comment-55011 Hi Paul, it looks interesting. Thanks for stopping by and sharing your information. Hi Paul, it looks interesting. Thanks for stopping by and sharing your information.

]]> By: Miki Saxon http://mappingcompanysuccess.com/2009/05/ducks-in-a-row-innovation-and-the-sacred-ps/comment-page-1/#comment-55006 Miki Saxon Thu, 07 May 2009 06:09:03 +0000 http://www.mappingcompanysuccess.com/?p=2442#comment-55006 Oops, Jennifer, you caught me out. I don't tweet, but thanks so much for putting this out there in twitterland! I'll check the book out as soon as I dig out from my required reading. Oops, Jennifer, you caught me out. I don’t tweet, but thanks so much for putting this out there in twitterland!

I’ll check the book out as soon as I dig out from my required reading.

]]> By: Paul Tran http://mappingcompanysuccess.com/2009/05/ducks-in-a-row-innovation-and-the-sacred-ps/comment-page-1/#comment-55015 Paul Tran Wed, 06 May 2009 19:27:40 +0000 http://www.mappingcompanysuccess.com/?p=2442#comment-55015 Here is an innovation wiki that you can use: http://budurl.com/WebStorm Regards, Paul Tran Brightidea – Innovation & Idea Management ptran@brightidea.com 415-992-2082 office/mobile 415-842-0300 fax Yahoo IM: paultran888 Skype: paultran666 Twitter: twitter.com/paultran888 Web: www.brightidea.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/paultran888 Here is an innovation wiki that you can use: http://budurl.com/WebStorm

Regards,

Paul Tran
Brightidea – Innovation & Idea Management
ptran@brightidea.com
415-992-2082 office/mobile
415-842-0300 fax

Yahoo IM: paultran888
Skype: paultran666
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]]> By: Jennifer Brown http://mappingcompanysuccess.com/2009/05/ducks-in-a-row-innovation-and-the-sacred-ps/comment-page-1/#comment-55013 Jennifer Brown Wed, 06 May 2009 18:30:48 +0000 http://www.mappingcompanysuccess.com/?p=2442#comment-55013 Looking forward to your take on horizontal silos (Read Patrick Lencioni's "Silos, Politics, and Turfwars" for a consultant's take which I support), and have a feeling that I like where you are going with this. I also tweeted this blog post. Check it out: http://twitter.com/jenniferbrown/status/1718999906 Looking forward to your take on horizontal silos (Read Patrick Lencioni’s “Silos, Politics, and Turfwars” for a consultant’s take which I support), and have a feeling that I like where you are going with this. I also tweeted this blog post. Check it out: http://twitter.com/jenniferbrown/status/1718999906

]]> By: Miki Saxon http://mappingcompanysuccess.com/2009/05/ducks-in-a-row-innovation-and-the-sacred-ps/comment-page-1/#comment-55008 Miki Saxon Wed, 06 May 2009 17:44:25 +0000 http://www.mappingcompanysuccess.com/?p=2442#comment-55008 Hi Max, what you say is absolutely true. The problem in that actually happening is encapsulated in the "should be open...," which we all know is far to rare. Do come back next week and see the simple solution to turning 'should be' into 'are'. Hi Max, what you say is absolutely true. The problem in that actually happening is encapsulated in the “should be open…,” which we all know is far to rare.

Do come back next week and see the simple solution to turning ‘should be’ into ‘are’.

]]> By: Miki Saxon http://mappingcompanysuccess.com/2009/05/ducks-in-a-row-innovation-and-the-sacred-ps/comment-page-1/#comment-55012 Miki Saxon Wed, 06 May 2009 17:34:16 +0000 http://www.mappingcompanysuccess.com/?p=2442#comment-55012 Hi Jennifer, I'm glad you liked it. I agree that company-wide innovation wikis are a great way to break down vertical silos, but they accomplish something else, too. They break down horizontal silos. What's that? Horizontal silos are next weeks topic on Ducks In A Row. See you then! Hi Jennifer, I’m glad you liked it. I agree that company-wide innovation wikis are a great way to break down vertical silos, but they accomplish something else, too.

They break down horizontal silos. What’s that? Horizontal silos are next weeks topic on Ducks In A Row. See you then!

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