Comments on: Leader/Manager = Leadager

By: MAPping Company Success

MAPping Company Success — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:32:18 +0000

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By: Ducks In A Row: Leadership And Assumptions

Ducks In A Row: Leadership And Assumptions — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:49:41 +0000

[...] to Warren Bennis there are 13 differences between leaders and managers. We previously discussed whether the modern workforce can actually be managed without doing [...]

By: Ducks In A Row: How To Be An Original

Ducks In A Row: How To Be An Original — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:05:29 +0000

[...] a post last spring, I listed Warren Bennis’ leadership skills and in 7 follow-up posts discussed why today’s managers find it hard to do their job without [...]

By: Miki Saxon

Miki Saxon — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:18:05 +0000

Hi Jude, thanks for stopping by and adding to the conversation.The disagreement many of us have with Bennis is that a manager who fits his description would fare poorly managing today’s workforce, which is far different from what it was. No manager can motivate people, fire up productivity, encourage innovation, etc., without possessing many of the so-called leadership traits.

If you have time, read the next seven posts addressing each of the specific traits.

By: Jude Paul Findlay

Jude Paul Findlay — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 06:49:37 +0000

I enjoyed Ben’s comments in relation to Bennis, although a lot of what Bennis says is relevent.
The concern with some leaders and thier styles is that they over reach, a good performer/ manager/deliverer is not necessarily a good leader.
If anything they have through out thier working life shown themselves to be loyal and true toilers and little more.
The problem is how to deal with and quickly the wrong appointment, so as all parties maintain dignity.( Bennis included ) Regards Jude

By: Low Han Yew’s Journal» Blog Archive » Quotes: Leader + Manager = Leadager

Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:05:53 +0000

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By: Miki Saxon

Miki Saxon — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:05:18 +0000

Hi Low Han, welcome and thanks for the kind words. Leadager is a new word for everyone. I coined it because there’s a real need for a word that accurately describe a person who can succeed with today’s workforce.

I hope you’ll come back and share some of your thoughts with us in the future.

By: Low Han Yew

Low Han Yew — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 04:26:44 +0000

Wow… This post is cool. Leadager… That’s a new word to me. Ha..

By: Miki Saxon

Miki Saxon — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:26:19 +0000

Hi Ben, Sorry for the delay, you got caught by Akismet:)

I agree totally with your comments about Bennis and many other leadership pundits. But leadership is an industry like any other and people are in it to earn a living. The better your sound bites > the higher your profile > the better your paycheck.

By: Bennet Simonton

Bennet Simonton — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:37:00 +0000

I have very little good to say about Bennis. He made a fortune writing books about leadership, over 20 and never solved the problem. But he made a lot of money consulting, speaking and selling books. Bennis never proved in the heat of battle what he has professed to be true. But he was very successful at selling it.

The whole issue of the difference between managers and leaders is a waste of time. Don’t get confused by catchy answers like “A manager does things right, a leader does the right thing.” They sell books but they have no substance.

Managing applies to the effective use of a resource such as money management or supply chain management or people management or what-have-you.

Leadership applies to people and denotes the sending of value standard messages to people which they then follow/use. Thus we say that they have been “led” in the direction of those value standards. Leadership is therefore one side of the coin called values, the other side being followership.

So leadership is quite simply what followers use to determine how to do their work.

Leadership in the workplace consists of the value standards reflected in everything that an employee experiences because these standards are what employees follow by using them to perform their work. Most of what the employee experiences is the support or lack thereof provided by management – such as training, tools, parts, discipline, direction, material, procedures, rules, technical advice, documentation, information, etc.

Leadership is not a process any manager can change. It happens inexorably every minute of every day because of what people follow. The only choice available to a manager is the standard (good, bad, mediocre or in between) which people will follow.

Best regards, Ben
Author “Leading People to be Highly Motivated and Committed”