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Leaders that DO: Brad Anderson and culture

by Miki Saxon

If you’re looking for a role model when forming your corporate culture check out Brad Anderson, CEO of Best Buy.

While Anderson’s external focus is customer experience, for a sample just walk into any store, internally he’s enabled a culture that allows ideas to move from the bottom up, as opposed to top down. And not just little ideas, but giant ones, such as eliminating required work hours for the entire company—can’t get much bigger than that!

The program is called ROWE (results-only work environment) and was conceived of, and developed by, HR mangers Jody Thompson and Cali Ressler, who recognized that the main thing that “presence” and “productivity” have in common is that they both start with a “p.”

Since the idea of telecommuting surfaced, nearly 25 years ago, there has always been tremendous resistance by managers, based in fear, to the idea that people can be productive outside of the boss’ sight. This is well summed up by the attitude of the general manager of BestBuy.com, senior vice-president J. T. Thompson, “who was privately terrified about the loss of control” when he first heard about ROWE. The difference is that Thompson dealt with his fear, took the risk, and is reaping the reward.

How big a reward?

“Best Buy notes that productivity is up an average 35% in departments that have switched to ROWE. Employee engagement, which measures employee satisfaction and is often a barometer for retention, is way up too, according to the Gallup Organization, which audits corporate cultures.”

In fact, ROWE is a subculture, possible only because of the overall culture fostered by Anderson, who encourages “bottom-up, stealth innovation.” He and his team believes in ROWE so much that “they have formed a subsidiary called CultureRx, to help other companies go clockless.”

In a response to the question, “Where do you find new business ideas?” Anderson shows just how well listening to workers can pay off.

I believe that some of our best ideas have come from the people who are furthest removed from the CEO’s office – those line-level employees who interact with our customers each and every day. We’ve got a wonderful team of eccentric people working in our Manhattan store on 44th Street and Fifth Avenue. Now, there’s a large Brazilian community near the store, and the manager said, “Hey, we don’t do anything to cater to them.” So he hired folks who spoke the language in the store. They wound up discovering that there are cruise ships of Brazilians that come to New York City, so they contacted the travel company and found that the store was a desirable stop for them. So all of a sudden we have buses of tour groups pulling up on Sundays. If we waited for someone in Minnesota to come up with that idea, we’d still be waiting.

But it goes much further than that. While other companies talk about their multicultural hiring, Best Buy turns theirs into a competitive advantage. Few people think of retail sales jobs as career moves, but they can be.

When a delegation from China recently toured Vancouver-area Future Shop stores, Kevin Layden [chief operating officer of Best Buy International] was the only one in the group who needed an interpreter.

In every store they entered, Chinese partners of the retail chain met Future Shop employees who not only talked the same technical language – they were all in the electronics retailing field – but spoke Mandarin as well.

Among the Canadian hosts to the Chinese delegation was Yingming Gao, manager of a Future Shop store in Surrey, B.C., and a 12-year veteran of the company.

Mr. Layden says the key to managing diversity, and to understanding different cultures, is to listen, learn and adopt the best ideas from a variety of sources, rather than imposing one corporate viewpoint.

Mr. Gao, who is expected to take on a management role in the Nanjing store, understands the differences in business philosophy, as well as the cultural differences. He aims to help Best Buy and Five Star bridge differences without disrupting Five Star’s relationship with customers.

The greatest cultures aren’t pronouncements, they are enablers that incite creative thinking at all levels, listen to the results, act on them and give credit where it’s due.

13 Responses to “Leaders that DO: Brad Anderson and culture”
  1. Diane Says:

    I enjoyed reading this article a great deal and I trust this type of pro-active thinking will multiply as we need to change the work philosophy. People need to feel they are appreciated and valued. They need to feel part of the success of the organisation. I find this article to demonstrate very well how management can bank on the wealth of talent their employees can offer and create a win-win situation. Two thumbs up for such openmindedness. I think the new generation of workers will be most productive in this type of environment. My understanding of the young work force teaches me that being chained to a desk and watching the clock is not going to keep them faithful to a company. What can be done to open the minds of managers? I look forward to hearing from you!

  2. Bob Turek Says:

    Miki- the Best Buy story is not only great, it is exciting. The work environment can be fun and fulfilling when ideas and innovations are allowed to be voiced to a management team that knows what to do with them- let people run with their ideas. Reminds me of a manager I know that leaves “permission” cards on his desk for people who have ideas to share when he isn’t there- just fill the card out and go do it! It’s fascinating how people rise to the challenge when programs like ROWE are put in place- the “results only” mantra is on the heart of every worker who cares about doing a good job. One of the best project managers I know simply says that she will lead a project that provides “results, with no excuses”. Daring, but she lived by it with extremely satisfied clients.

  3. Miki Saxon Says:

    Diane, I agree, it is exciting, but having spent more than 20 years recruiting and another ten coaching managers in retention I can guarantee that “being chained to a desk and watching the clock” doesn’t build loyalty or encourage productivity in any worker no matter the age or the level. Workers of all ages who give-a-damn thrive in this environment, but there are workers at all ages who DON’T give-a-damn. Unfortunately, the few who DON’T often spoil it for the rest, just as you end up being treated as a potential shoplifter because of the minority who do steal.

    One thing to keep in mind about generational pronouncements is that they are giant generalizations containing millions of deviations, large and small, within them. Another point to keep in mind is that generations change as their lives change. Millions of the staid, rigid, corporate boomers were out burning draft cards, marching for Civil Rights, smoking dope, attending rock orgies and generally upending many of the sacred attitudes of their parents.

    As to forcing open managers’ minds, that isn’t really an option, but there is much that can be done to encourage them to change. It’s a good topic for a full post (or more) and I’ll tackle it next week.

  4. Miki Saxon Says:

    Bob, I love the MAP (mindset, attitude, philosophy)™ behind the story about the “permission cards.” People do care! But results-only approaches only work well when people really know what’s expected of them and are given the tools, authority and resources necessary to turn in the results.

  5. Cali & Jody » Blog Archive » ROWE in Leadership Turn Says:

    […] Nice mention today in Miki Anderson’s Leadership Turn blog. We talk a lot about how a Results-Only Work Environment is a “people’s movement” as opposed to coming from the executive level. While this is true, we’d also like to acknowledge the leaders at Best Buy who enabled this change. Cheers to those who recognized that ROWE could be good for business as well as good for individual employees. […]

  6. Miki Saxon Says:

    For those of you who aren’t aware, Jody Thompson and Cali Ressler are the two HR people who dreamed up ROWE. Not bad for a couple of non-Millennials—actually a Boomer and a Gen Xer .

  7. Changing manager’s minds Says:

    […] week I again focused on the culture underwritten by Brad Anderson’s MAP (mindset, attitude, philosophy)™. In the comments Diane […]

  8. Kathy Says:

    Hi Miki – I enjoy reading your blog, and truly would want to be doing everything I could to support a company in their implementation of policies like the one you describe at Best Buy.

    However, I am also a regular reader of Consumerist.com. I find their posts to be extremely useful for dealing with nightmare customer service problems, and their stories and their readers’ comments are an education in how bad customer service can be.

    And unfortunately for Best Buy, the stories have not been good ones. Quite honestly, after a year of two of reading that website, you’d have to pay me to enter a Best Buy store.

    And I wonder how a store that treats its customers so horribly can treat its employees so well. It just seems like a great big disconnect: employees who are dealt with honestly and fairly are treating customers poorly?

    An in store web site that has prices that are higher than the actual website:
    http://consumerist.com/consumer/update/best-buy-adds-disclaimer-to-secret-website-303124.php

    Shipping badly damaged merchandise and then making it very difficult for the customer to return it:
    http://consumerist.com/consumer/shipping-and-handling/best-buy-ships-crumpled-seinfeld-dvds-324116.php

    Dishonest sales techniques:
    http://consumerist.com/consumer/hype/best-buy-employees-selling-the-last-wii-over-and-over-again-321892.php
    http://consumerist.com/consumer/unneeded-services/best-buy-charges-you-29-for-a-restoration-disc-you-dont-need-315062.php

    Stealing files from pcs brought in for service:
    http://consumerist.com/consumer/leaks/2-more-former-employees-claim-geek-squad-stole-customers-personal-files-276220.php

    Not honoring warranties:
    http://consumerist.com/consumer/tampering/resolved-best-buy-either-voided-your-xbox-warranty-or-sold-you-a-used-unit-261258.php

    And many many more:
    http://consumerist.com/consumer/fraud/best-buy-sells-you-a-box-of-bathroom-tiles-instead-of-hard-drive-wont-issue-refund-315873.php

    http://consumerist.com/consumer/scams/best-buy-employee-tries-to-steal-your-gift-cards-220511.php

    http://consumerist.com/consumer/best-buy/best-buy-profiles-customers-221995.php

    http://consumerist.com/consumer/best-buy/best-buy-calls-911-on-customer-asking-for-refund-225169.php

    http://consumerist.com/consumer/best-buy/best-buy-quotes-four-different-exchange-policies-241293.php

    http://consumerist.com/consumer/lawsuits/best-buy-attorney-admits-to-falsifying-emails-in-racketeering-case-266395.php

  9. Miki Saxon Says:

    Kathy, Sorry for the delay in responding, but I wanted to read the links.

    I don’t have an answer for you, but I am planning to ask Best Buy about it and I’ll pass on what I find out. Right now I’m at a loss, I don’t get it either.

  10. Kathy Says:

    It’s a lot like WalMart, yes? Inexpensive prices, shoddy tactics. Not so much thought about how they fit into the bigger picture. Remember Denny’s of the 80s? The scandal was their francises were refusing to seat black people. I’ve never been comfortable eating at Denny’s after that happened.

    I think the Costco story might be a better one. They seem to pay their employees well for low-end retail and provide health insurance, their customers get good prices and reasonable customer service, and they manage to make money.

  11. Miki Saxon Says:

    Please, don’t get me started on WalMart:) I think WalMart knows exactly what it’s doing, including the bigger picture. I live where they are spending millions to fight every community that votes against their building a new store. (rant rant rant)

    You’re right on regarding Costco’s pay and benefits, but those same factors bring down the wrath of Wall Street and depresses their stock price, in spite of their making money.

  12. Kathy Says:

    But I’ll shop at Costco, and I won’t shop at WalMart or Best Buy. And still, 20 years after the fact, I’ve got to have a darn good reason to step into a Denny’s and even then, I find myself writing a check to a not-for-profit w/i 24 hours of eating there.

  13. Miki Saxon Says:

    I won’t set foot in WalMart; so far my personal experience at Best (about once every four years) has been OK; I vividly remember the Denny’s scandal, but stuff like that are what force a company (or individual) to face their actions and change. If Denny’s was still doing that or anything similar you can bet that they would be called on it fast, so I have no problem going there.

    Sadly, there are still companies acting like that, whether it’s over color, religion, gender, piercings or anything else that is judged and found different.

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